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Thread: British Military Proof Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanD View Post
    I was not aware of the circled T being next to the 'bird' on other rifles, perhaps the crossed pennant mark is a factory inspection mark? Other firms have used a similar devise such as the Braendlin Armoury Company. This may be the most simple explanation
    Your own Lithgow arsenal also used the crossed pennants as a factory inspection mark.
    Here are 2 photos of the "T in circle" mark next to the "eagle". I noted only now on photographing the T being upside down in relation to the eagle, so it may represent two L as well.
    Potuguese M1896 carbine # G660, action same as Roumanian M93, "Crown/CI (Carlos I)" on receiver ring, action dated "Steyr 1898" on side. 6.5x53R aka .256 Mannlicher


    Sporter by G.Gibbs, Bristol & 35 Saville Row, London, Gibbs serial number B3085, Dutch M95 action + barrel, receiver dated "Steyr 1899". 6.5x53R / .256 Mannlicher



    A "Roumanian Phoenix" makes little sense on rifles destined for other nations. IMHO that eagle was a final factory inspection stamp, used for a long time. The "pennants", the "circled T" and the "circled K" were personal marks of the inspectors who changed over the years.What are the dates on the left receiver wall of your pennant marked Mannlichers?
    Last edited by Axel E; 01-07-2016 at 02:37 PM.

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    AlanD,
    I wasn't wondering about the mark being a proofmark by a third agency, rather I wondered if it was to ID or show ownership by a particular agency. As I said, it was a "shot in the dark"( on the other hand, Pat Garret got Billy the Kid with a "shot in the dark").
    Mike

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    That's right Mike...and he did it at night too!

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    Are markings of this sort (bird, with or without a second figure) known on spool-magazine Mannlichers, or only on packet-loading ones? Dan

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    Spool magazine Mannlicher - Schoenaurs could not be stamped in this place as the area is hollowed out from below to take the cartridge retainer. Applying a stamp here would certainly dent, if not break the rather thin metal here. But I have seen the "circle T" or "circle K" marks on receiver rings, under the woodline, on pre-WW1 Mannlicher - Schoenauer M1900 and M1903 actions, but no "eagles".

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    Axel: thanks for pics and comments. Would like to locate a Dutch 95 actually delivered to the Netherlands military by Steyr to see what markings of this type, if any, it might bear. Dan

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