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Thread: Collectable vs. Shootable

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    Collectable vs. Shootable

    My name is Michael Crawford and I live in northeastern West Virginia. I have two German drillings.

    Drilling A is an Emil Kerner built around 1915. The pictures describe it in more detail than I can. It was represented to me as being “possibly unfired”. After I received it and looked at the bores, I realized that might be the case. It has some minor handling marks, but overall it is a much better firearm than I anticipated. I have been advised that it would be wrong to shoot it.

    Drilling B appears to be well used. The engraving is a few scrowls with a lot of squiggly lines. You have to manually raise the rifle sight. The forearm was split about a third of the way, and I have glued it back together since the picture was taken. The split is still easily visible. The action works fine and it locks up tightly. The bores are brown.

    I like old firearms and enjoy shooting them. I don't like owning guns that are too collectable to shoot. I would like opinions on the value of the Kerner and whether it should be shot. If it is of no particular value then I will shoot it and enjoy it. If it is of such value that a collector would want it, then I would just sell it and shoot Drilling B.

    Drilling B doesn't appear to have the gunmaker's name on it. I am very curious about it. The caliber appears to be 8x58.5. What can I shoot in it? Is it a Mauser cartridge?

    I have made a chamber casting of Drilling A. I anticipate I would have to have brass and dies custom made.

    Due to the limit of five photos, I am attaching some pictures of Drilling A. I will try another post for questions about the unknown Driiling B.
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    mike,
    You will likely get different opinions and mine is the Emil Kerner was made to be used,if it were mine I would use it, and gladly. I couldn't "blow up the photo of it's proofmarks to determine the caliber, could you post a better photo? As far as the 8x58.5 cartridge is concerned, it is a pretty common cartridge for drillings and similar guns. It is usually known as 8x58R Sauer and Sohn(son), and is similar in head size to the 30-30, but longer. It normally uses a .318" dia. bullet and can be loaded using original length 38-55 cases or shortened 9.3x72R cases. It is a little more powerful than the 32-40 Winchester. The additional photos will result in additional discussions.
    Mike

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