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    These are copies from the 1910 Burgsmüller catalog.



    w10085, the fist page shows some rifles similar to yours. Will give you some idea on the correct rear sight and diopter.

    Raimey, the other page is on Vogelbüchsen. Note the weight, 6,5 to 9 kg. I see no connection to those Remo shotguns.

    Regards, fuhrmann

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    Thanks for the catalog pictures. They are interesting. I found this sight on Gunbroker for $250 (I didn't buy it). Is this basically the correct rear sight? Thanks,
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    w10085,
    Yes, it is one of the correct type sights. It mounts on the barrel. Another correct type is a Diopter( peep) type, that mounts on the tang. Which type got used depended on the course of fire for the particular match. Diopter sights were not allowed to be used in some types of matches. BTW, for an original sight, I think you would have to be pretty lucky to find one much cheaper.
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    And you'll get to make your own double ended, open end wrench for adjustments....unless you can find one. I didn't even try and just filed out a wrench.

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    w10085,

    Sharps likes to do everything the easy way! If you manage to get a sight with adjustments like this there are a number of companies that make eight point sockets specifically for square nuts and bolts in both metric and inch. Put it on the end of a 1/4" driver and you are in business.

    Quick question about the rifle to anyone that wants to answer. What is the ram rod used for on a cartridge rifle?

    Thanks, Diz

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    Diz,
    It's not a very substantial rod, but what about "wipeout" during a match? They would be using that nasty old black powder.
    w10085,
    If you go to a clock repair shop, they might have a key that will fit, or maybe an old skate key.
    Mike
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    Mike,

    That makes perfect sense especially with BP. I believe most did wipe the bore after every shot back then. Sharps can verify that or not. Good idea on the skate or clock keys too. Could work.

    Thanks, Diz

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    Before buying any expensive period sights I'd make sure that it will fit correctly. Not sure about standardisation of sights and those barrel rails back then.
    And just to make the gun usable, I might try to find some modern smallbore sight that can be adapted to fit. If needed, glue something into place...

    A cleaning rod certainly makes sense with BP.
    Another thought, this is a relatively early piece, BP times not long in the past, and to some eyes, a ramrod simply needed to be there.
    Have seen rifles adorned even with non-functional ramrod lookalikes.
    fuhrmann

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    The Gemmer Sharps and Ballard Pacific #5 were both equipped with "wiping sticks" in thimbles attached to the barrel and both were cartridge rifles. I want to remember I have also seen some rolling block sporting rifles so equipped and I'm certain some of the Trapdoor sporting rifles had them. Many of the old Buffalo Runners carried "wiping sticks" with them to their stand. As Mike and Diz mentioned, on the target range a lot of the old shooters wiped between every shot. I wouldn't doubt that there is also a bit of truth to what fuhrman said. So, all of you are right!!

    As far as the wrench, what could be easier than standing at a vise for 2-3 hours filing one out of a piece of angle iron?.....

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    Sharps4590,
    If that is what you have to do to get a wrench, then that is what you do. It would be easier to drill a hole first.

    fuhrmann,
    I thought about that too, but didn't say it, because I was afraid ya'll might think I was silly.
    Mike

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