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Here is one of my favorite IM SXS in 16. Very simple, not elaboratly engraved...lovely in the field.
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I have a IM - Suhl, large ring 98 Mauser in 8x57, nice wood, lightly engraved, had DSTs.
The S # is 1769 on the barrel & receiver also the #s 320? and 117? along with a 3 in a circle?
on the receiver - all are on the underside of the gun. Have pics. I can Email. --- JohnComment
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I just purchased an Imman Meffort combination gun, as soon as I get it I will give you the serial number. Not sure what caliber gauge this one is in. It was so nice I could not turn it down.
Mike
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Here is a close up of one lock.
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Hello
Here are some pics of a bolt action 98 shotgun conversion marked Imman. Meffert, Suhl and Remo 1 Cal 16 DRP on the barrel. It has a sporterized Gewehr 98 stock. Serial number 12896. It´s converted after Gebrüder Rempt´s patent 328446 take away the welded shell guide which belongs to Emil Hengelhaupt´s patent 337013. Conversions after the Rempt patent with sporterized Gewehr 98 stocks are sometimes referred to as "economy models". Not too long ago I saw a twin to my gun, also in gauge 16, for sale on an Internet auction site. Serial number on that one was 11591. It went away for 153 Euro if I remember correctly.
RemoMeffert 054.JPGRemoMeffert 048.jpgRemoMeffert 043.jpgRemoMeffert 038.jpgRemoMeffert 036.jpg
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PeterLast edited by algmule; 03-04-2015, 08:41 AM.Comment
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Here are additional pics of the Imman. Meffert marked conversion. I may add that the W stamped on the barrel in one of the pics in my previous post is not the Wurgebohrung-stamp. I´ll see if I can find time to snap a picture where the Wurgebohrung-stamp shows. The picture with the three bolts shows the modified 98 extractors, from left to right, on an Rw.E. marked conversion, the Imman. Meffert conversion and a Geha conversion. All three are in gauge 16.
RemoMeffert 052.jpgRemoMeffert 035.jpgRemoMeffert 032.jpgRemoMeffert 008.jpgRemoMeffert 004.jpg
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Here is an Immanuel Meffert ad from the Waffenschmied, August 1921. Meffert offered for resale by retailers, besides hunting and target guns like s-s shotguns, combinations, drillings, stalking rifles and all kinds of selfloading pistols, "Geha" and "Remo" shotgun conversions.
Below, they offered "Remo" repeating rifles. These were very rare, unique conversions of M98 actions to tube magazines under the barrel. Nobody seems to know WHY? this complicated alteration was tried then. Here is a Rempt brothers ad for this contraption and a photo of the real thing:
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I've always thought the Geha shotgun seemed more a natural for the American market than the German, as the idea a Midwest farmer could buy a 12 ga. repeater for only a little more than a single-shot should have been appealing. The Meffert ad, however, brought to mind a German market I hadn't thought of previously. I refer to the suggestion the Geha and Remo were suitable not only for hunting but also for "defense and self-protection." Considering the actual or expected political turmoil in Germany in the early 1920s--particularly along its eastern borders--it looks like Meffert and the guns' makers perhaps saw another market than the traditional one for shotguns. Do I read too much into this? DanComment
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Here´s a picture of the Wurgebohrung-stamp on my conversion marked Imman. Meffert. What that other W-stamp (Picture in an earlier post) is I don´t know.
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You may know of this: a P. von Frantzius catalogue that is said to be from 1928 (I believe 1926) offers the Super "Remo" Bolt Action Repeating Shotgun for $29.85. It also claims the Geha has been discontinued. The Remo is only offered in gauge 12. The catalogue does not, however, mention anything about Imman. Meffert.
Also, Axel, I tried to send a pm to you. I´m a tiny bit curious if I actually managed to send it. Please let me know if it reached you.
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Axel,
Two possible answers to your question(why?) could be to increase magazine from 5 rounds to 7-12 rounds, or use the very plentiful surplus 98 actions for cartridges that would not otherwise normally be used for, such as 9.3x72R and 25-35 Win. Whether this was worthwhile or not, I will leave to others.As a former owner of a Geha, I can say the conversions to shotgun, especially to 12 ga, were also "contraptions".
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As the forum is just slightly livelier than the Dodo I post the following link
http://www.lauritz.com/sv/auktion/ja...-16/i2850411/#
I had completely missed this one (auction from 2013).
Serial No given as 1779008. Seems somewhat high for a conversion as the highest I´ve seen on them is a five digit serial.
Disregarding the serial a couple of interesting features catch my eye. First Imman. Meffert marked Remo II that I´ve seen, at least the barrel is marked so. No export mark. It´s an early conversion (D.R.P.a.) and it is like all the other Remo II´s marked RwE (Reichswerke Erfurt). Also: we clearly see that the shellguide/shell retainer/shell deflector is not an integral part of the receiver. I knew this before as one of my own conversions has the Pieper-marking and another one of my conversions (RwE marked) has a tiny crack between the receiver and the shell guide.
If the serial is correct we now have a Remo II Imman. Meffert as well as a Remo 1 Imman Meffert in the Meffert serialization thread.
Also, if I may http://www.germanguns.com/upload/sho...te-and-roebuck
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PeterLast edited by algmule; 04-11-2017, 09:49 PM.Comment
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http://www.germanguns.com/upload/sho...hlight=meffert
here is the link at my hammer Hubertus with two set of barrels, serial number 202462Comment
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Two more:
Hubertus "Treff" action Bockbuchsflinte 16ga/8X57IR - S/N 58836 - 2/28
Hubertus Dural Vierling 16ga/8X57IR/5.6X35R Vierling - S/N 64587 - 9/38
Waidmannsheil!
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Vierling.....vierling he says. Mark, good for you, how ultimately cool.Comment
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